Gt-new-horizons-modpack: New lootbags and balanced the old ones

[Dream-Master]

I need idea for Tier 7-9 Lootbagas.
I need ideas of balancing Steam to Tier 6 ones.

[richardhendricks]

Where is the loot tables now for the tiers?

[Dream-Master]

loot bag folder. lootbags.xml

[bartimaeusnek]

tier 7 = tier 6 without trash maybe?

[Dream-Master]

yes maybe no trash at tier 7 but we need more items and new items
No i will add trash too otherwise lootbags to good. In Tier 7 and so on you get better items.

[Dream-Master]

Add Enchantment recipes for missing Fortune 3 Lootbag types

[Cinobi]

1. remove chanse of crap in t1-t3 lootbags - they are too lowtier to waste fortune3 book for them anyway
2. reduce chanse of crap in legendary lootbags - draconic core is too high-tiered compare to time when u get legendary bags(u can get them at ev!)

[Dream-Master]

you mean you get a Draconium core before you make the legendary Quest ? @Cinobi

[richardhendricks]

Remove the OW berries from the lootbags. Add to Coins quests, 1 per berry type, 25 Explorer coins each.
Remove the Nether berries from lootbags. Add to Coins quests, 1 per berry type, 50 Explorer coins each.
Lower chances on saplings awards.

Useful loot for steam era

• half Stack of Coal Coke Blocks
• 2 Stacks of torches
• 2 LP coal boilers
• 1 HP coal boiler
• Steam macerator (LP or HP)
• 16 coke oven bricks (the block)
• 16 BBF bricks (the bricks)
• 4 hoppers
• mid-tier foods like jelly sandwiches, pies
• single-block ores needed for steam, like lapis, redstone, basaltic mineral sands, for orewand (one, not all at once)
• 8 spawn eggs for animals (8 cows, 8 chickens, etc)
• 128 Brownstone Road blocks (blocks that increase speed, craftable normally in smeltery + tin)
• 4 stone builder's wands
• 64 cropsticks

[richardhendricks]

LV era loot

• Stack of coal coke
• 32 oil cells
• 2 stacks of flat lamps
• 32 red alloy ingots
• basic gas turbine/combustion generator/steam turbine
• centrifuge
• macerator
• 64 mining pipes
• 32 empty cells
• 8 large steel fluid cells
• higher tier foods (not the top tier ones used for healing axe) - good pizzas, good burgers, etc.
• forestry farm blocks - maybe a mix of types?
• Steves carts parts
• Maybe some IC2 seedbags, nothing too crazy, stickreed, ferru, terrawart or coppon, 2 of each, 1/1/1
• weeding trowel
• 32 Rubber bars

MV loot

• Centrifuge
• Macerator
• 8 vanadium steel ingots
• 8 damascus steel ingots
• 8 manganese ingots
• 8 chrome ingots
• Supertank
• more forestry farm blocks
• ic2 seedbags - argentia, plumbilia, nickelback, or redwheat, 2 of each, 1/1/1
• crop matron
• 32 Polyethylene bars
• various circuit pieces

HV loot

• ic2 harvester
• ic2 seedbags - blazereed, aurelia, bauxia, or rape, 2 of each, 1/1/1
• rocket pieces
• half stack of iTNT
• 16 nitric acid
• 1 TNM
• 32 PTFE bars
• various circuit pieces

[Cinobi]

I mean when u get ur first lootbags u a AGES below draconic cores tier -> so most of the "legendary" lootbags yelds tree saplings. U just can't enchant them atall.

[Dream-Master]

ok will remove trash branch on legendary loot bags

[Dream-Master]

@richardhendricks can you suggest more lootbags for EV and IV and LuV please.

[richardhendricks]

uh, I have no idea what would be good EV/IV/LuV rewards would be. Other than usual components, maybe batteries/lapotron crystals?

[Dream-Master]

@cinobi, @bluebine, @0Lafe any idea?

[Bluebine]

A list of things that can be added for every tier- I think some of these are already implemented, like the motors, at least for the lower tiers.
8 motors of the tier
4 pistons of the tier
4 pumps of the tier
4 circuits of the tier
a battery of the tier- lithium for LV-HV, sunnarium for EV-LuV
2 machine hulls of the tier
24 ingots of the tier's material
Perhaps a solar panel 3 tiers lower? i.e. LV solar panel at EV- these should be REALLY rare though.
2-4 heavy duty alloy ingots for the rocket of the tier- tier 1 for HV, tier 2 for EV, etc.
16 wires of the superconductor of the tier previous (MV superconductors at HV, HV superconductors at EV, etc)
I think it would be interesting to have a rare chance to get a free lootbag of the tier ABOVE. You'd have to keep it pretty rare, but it'd be cool.
32 of the tier's cable (aluminium for EV, platinum for IV, etc.)
A prospector's scanner of the tier, made out of a tier-appropriate metal (steel for LV, vanadiumsteel for MV-HV, shadow for EV+). Should be pretty rare.
4 large fluid cells, of the appropriate size for the tier (steel for LV, aluminium for MV, etc.)

[0lafe]

I'm fairly on the side of IV+ not needing lootbags, but some stuff for them could be argon cells, maybe some silicone/styrene for cables, epoxy. LuV is a little harder because I can't think of much other than rockets/fusion that you do in that tier. Maybe some heavy ingots or super conductors in addition to normal parts

[boubou19]

it would be cool if you could add required components for gendustry stuff, like naquadah comb or a bucket of mutagen

[Dream-Master]

in which bag iv or LuV?

[boubou19]

LuV since you can only start craftings things in LuV

[Dream-Master]

ok

[boubou19]

also there is some item only possible to craft in zpm so might be a valid suggestion for zpm lootbags too

[richardhendricks]

Oh yeah, some bee stuff would definitely be useful loot

LV
2 Bee houses
Scoop
wooden frame

MV
4 apiaries
1 apiarist chest
2 bee collector's jar
3 impregnated frames

HV
4 alveary block
2 alveary frame block
6 proven frames
Climate Acclimator (rare)

I don't know if we want to award bees?

[richardhendricks]

LV/MV/HV
Tin cans of food

[Sudoloo]

For later tiers, void metal pipes are ossly good, other options could be tier relavent metal machine casings (multiblocks) in quantities of 4 to six, medium handfulls of circuits of the earlier tiers, at tiers 5 and up a bag of preprogrammed circuits 1 through 24 would be funny. Tier 1 and steam should have weak thaumic bases crops like metalleat and rainbow ( gay ) cactus. Choochum schoochers and other niche tools no one makes would also be good.

[richardhendricks]

GT branch cutters and Sense would be nice.

[redmage17]

Remove the material requirements outside the enchantment books for Fortune 3 bags.

[redmage17]

Remove the useless cosmetics

[richardhendricks]

We have plans for a base-build tab, when that happens we can move cosmetic rewards to that lootbag.

[ToastedEggplant]

Can we keep the unique Tinker's tools that appear in the lootbags as well? Those are a nice surprise to get.

[Dream-Master]

@ToastedEggplant feel free to design high tier tools and add it via mt commad here ?