Gt-new-horizons-modpack: [suggestion] Add Fluid Regulators for IV+ pumps/Problem with HP Steam Turbine
Suggestion: https://github.com/GTNewHorizons/NewHorizons/issues/2721#issuecomment-373938020
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2.0.3.0
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I've made a LHE that runs at full capacity and attached a Large HP Steam turbine to it. LHE makes 16 000 L/t of superheated steam. The turbine is equipped with a a large tungstensteel turbine with an optimal flow of 16 570 L/t in loose mode. Given that 1L of SH Steam = 1EU the turbine should be making 16 000 EU/t with 100% efficiency. With the 75% inefficiency on the turbine in loose mode it should be 12 000 EU/t. But what the turbine is actually making is around 8800 EU/t.
See the attached video of the whole setup here:
https://puu.sh/zJAxK/1dd6d64801.mp4
Lainiel
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Scratch that, the tooltip is correct. It looks like what is happening here is the turbine isn't being fed steam constantly by the LHE so it never gets a chance to warm up completely. I wonder why the UHV output hatch on the LHE is allowed to fill up beyond 16,000 and then drop down to 0...
codewarrior0
on 17 Mar 2018
Ah, I see what's happening.
The UHV output hatch only outputs its steam into the Turbine's input hatch every eight ticks, so it ejects 128,000 at once. The Turbine then burns through the 128,000 as fast as it can, which is up to 25% faster than the stated flow rate on its rotor, also applying an EU/t penalty due to the flow being unregulated. On top of that, it spends two ticks out of every eight without any steam, so the Turbine is never able to warm up completely.
What you need to do is attach a fluid regulator cover to the Turbine's input hatch and set it to 16,000 L/t.
codewarrior0
on 17 Mar 2018
There's no regulator that goes up to that ammount.
IV regulator only goes to 8192 L/t
Lainiel
on 17 Mar 2018
Then put two input hatches on the Turbine with regulators each set to 8,000?
codewarrior0
on 17 Mar 2018
You can't do that on both sides when you have a normal large steam turbine next to it. You have to put maintanance hatch somewhere.
Lainiel
on 17 Mar 2018
Why not the underside?
codewarrior0
on 17 Mar 2018
I'll do some testing and I'll be back. Thanks
Lainiel
on 17 Mar 2018
why not put maintenance on the other side? if its like the plasma ones, you got 4 free blocks on the sides. So 2 inputs, 1 output, and 1 maintenance should work
benstuwie
on 17 Mar 2018
Okay I've found out that you can put maintenance hatch on the bottom. Why you can't put it on the other side is that then you have the same problem outputing enough steam into the Large Steam Turbine. I've got it up to 11586 EU/t which is pretty close I guess.
Lainiel
on 17 Mar 2018
Still I think we could use regulators that go to a higher amounts.
Lainiel
on 17 Mar 2018
I use all my turbines in "precise" mode but I do agree there should be higher tiers of fluid regulators, mainly because there's a lot of super high tier gregtech fluid pipes in the pack right now, and no way to actually regulate those insane rates of fluid if we wanted to do so.
Prewf
on 17 Mar 2018
11,587 EU/t is the correct output for this setup.
Take the input amount, and divide by optimal flow to calculate penalty for less than optimal flow.
16,000L/t / 16570 L/t = .965600
Multiply by loose efficiency to get effective efficiency
.9656 * .75 = .724200
Multiply by steam input to get EU/t (HP steam is 1:1 steam:EU, LP steam is 2:1 steam:EU)
.7242 * 16000 L/t = 11587 EU/t
richardhendricks
on 18 Mar 2018
So what is the problem here? Is this a balancing issue or a missunderstanding ?
Dream-Master
on 23 Mar 2018
The EU output is correct. There is still an issue with needing larger sized fluid regulators, but in Lainiel's case it is working now.
richardhendricks
on 23 Mar 2018
Neither, it's just a weird quirk. The Large Steam Turbine needs to be regulated at a higher rate than we have Fluid Regulators for, so he needed to use two regulators on two input/output hatches to get it working correctly.
Having another tier of Fluid Regulator would mostly be a quality of life change, not really a bug fix or balance fix.
codewarrior0
on 23 Mar 2018
but nothing we can fix? So the issue can be closed or written down in the quest book?
Dream-Master
on 23 Mar 2018
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I use all my turbines in "precise" mode but I do agree there should be higher tiers of fluid regulators, mainly because there's a lot of super high tier gregtech fluid pipes in the pack right now, and no way to actually regulate those insane rates of fluid if we wanted to do so.