Godot: Separate user data directory for Godot 3

[RandomShaper]

We already have config and layouts files named differently for 3.0, but I wonder if it would be better to have a separate folder for Godot 3.

Reason: to prevent possible conflicts (future or present but not already noticed, like maybe export templates) and to add the ability to uninstall or clean Godot 2 and 3 user data separately.

Now the folder is pretty confusing regarding what files/subdirectories belong to each branch.

[Calinou]

Blender uses a folder per version, so you have (Blender user data directory)/2.77 and (Blender user data directory)/2.78, for example. We could do the same, I guess. If this is done, then editor_settings-3.tres should be renamed to editor_settings.tres, and export templates should not have a versioned folder in the templates/ directory anymore (since all user data will be per-version).

[reduz]

which kind of user data?

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:57 AM, Pedro J. Estébanez <
[email protected]> wrote:

We already have config and layouts files named differently for 3.0, but I
wonder if it would be better to have a separate folder for Godot 3.

Reason: to prevent possible conflicts (future or present but not already
noticed, like maybe export templates) and to add the ability to uninstall
or clean Godot 2 and 3 user data separately.

Now the folder is pretty confusing regarding what files/subdirectories
belong to each branch.

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[Calinou]

I was refering to the editor user data (settings, export templates, text editor themes, …). Game user data would, of course, go to a different directory chosen in the project settings (or in the export settings).

[reduz]

editor data is usually ok, because project info is saved as a directory in
both 2.x and 3.x

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Hugo Locurcio [e-mail]
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I was refering to the editor user data (settings, export templates, text
editor themes, …). Game user data would, of course, go to a different
directory chosen in the project settings (or the export settings).

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[reduz]

err i mean, unique directory hash

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 12:26 PM, Juan Linietsky [e-mail] wrote:

editor data is usually ok, because project info is saved as a directory in
both 2.x and 3.x

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 12:16 PM, Hugo Locurcio [e-mail]
wrote:

I was refering to the editor user data (settings, export templates, text
editor themes, …). Game user data would, of course, go to a different
directory chosen in the project settings (or the export settings).

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[akien-mga]

I'm fine with switching to a .godot/3.0/ folder if you guys think it's better.

The main drawback of such splitting is that you either lose config, or need to provide a way to import it, whenever you move to a new version. Godot 3.0 broke compatibility with everything that came before it, but I expect that 3.1 will stay compatible and will use the same formats. But if done right, we can have Godot 3.1 import (and if need be, convert) existing 3.0 settings, and then they can diverge as needed by the constraints of the two versions.

[Zireael07]

I think the idea is for 2.1. branch to save to 2.1 folder and master to save to 3.0 folder, so 3.1 etc. would save to 3.0?

[reduz]

I would not do it by version, I have no idea if 4.0 will be compatible with
3.0. Current way is probably best.

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 1:22 PM, Zireael07 [e-mail] wrote:

I think the idea is for 2.1. branch to save to 2.1 folder and master to
save to 3.0 folder, so 3.1 etc. would save to 3.0?

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[RandomShaper]

I mean to do it per major release.

It's not weird to have both 2.x and 3.x installed at least during the
transition period or if you still have to maintain a project developed in
an earlier release. That should be supported with no interferences between
them, IMO.

I don't know the reasons behind the Blender way, but to me it seems
overkill.

[RandomShaper]

The main drawback of such splitting is that you either lose config, or need to provide a way to import it,

As long as the switch is done per major release, losing them is what already happens now. Settings for 2.x are incompatible with those for 3.x.

We may think about config importing as an independent feature.

I'm fine with switching to a .godot/3.0/ folder if you guys think it's better.

I'd be more in favor of .godot3 (with no subdirectory), to keep 2.x's and 3.x's side by side at the same level.

[akien-mga]

I'd be more in favor of .godot3 (with no subdirectory), to keep 2.x's and 3.x's side by side at the same level.

If we went this way, I'd strongly prefer .godot/3 or .godot/3.x to avoid cluttering users' $HOME with .godot{,3,4,5,6,7} over the years.

[RandomShaper]

Makes sense.

[reduz]

guys, as I mentioned, I have no idea why you are wasting time on this.
~/.godot consists of

1) general settings file, which can be changed in the worst case, by version. 2 and 3 use a different file
2) Project cache directories, which are hashed, so nothing from 2 and can 3 coexist anyway
3) Export templates. From Godot 3.0 they are already versioned, so past and future versions will not conflict
4) A general tmp directory that is not used much nowadays and might be replaced by the host OS tmp directory.

Let's not add unnecessary features, this is not needed.

[reduz]

We also discussed this before on IRC and decided against it.

[RandomShaper]

Hmmm. So there is not possible conflict.

I'd still prefer separate storage, but if this is already discussed, I'm ready to have this closed.

[hpvb]

I'd like to add that if we're changing anything about the setting locations of Godot we really should also move the files in the correct XDG dir on Linux at least. We really shouldn't be making a ~/.godot as a hardcoded location.

The common way to do this is to still read the old location if it exists but always create files in the correct location if no ~/.godot existed at all.

[reduz]

I will close this, currently this is designed so versions dont clash, this is not really a problem.
Also we discussed against XDG, current way should work good enough.