@qdbdbp @kolaente Let's vote for Gitea's new Logo. First reply is for @kolaente and the second is for @qdbdbp and other replies before that will be deleted. The vote duration is from now until v1.2 release (about 10 days) I think or we have to put this to v1.3.
lunny
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Logo by @kolaente https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1312#issue-215120549 
bkcsoft
on 20 Apr 2017
Logo by @qdbdbp https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1260#issuecomment-290051119
bkcsoft
on 20 Apr 2017
Just a quick heads-up on both though... Using the Git-logo in our logo is actually not legal: https://git-scm.com/trademark ... And technically neither is using the term "Git" in the name 馃檮
So before starting to use this logo, we should send an email to [email protected] asking if it's okey...
bkcsoft
on 20 Apr 2017
But the SF are more or less nice people, they allowed the usage for gitolite, GitLab, but one should ask for the written permission
agaida
on 20 Apr 2017
@strk please comment after that two vote replies. So I deleted your comment.
lunny
on 20 Apr 2017
@agaida Both of those have been Grandfathered, and none of them use the git-logo in their logo (and never have)
Also from Gitolites website: http://gitolite.com/gitolite/index.html#license
Note:
GIT is a trademark of Software Freedom Conservancy and my use of "Gitolite" is under license.
bkcsoft
on 20 Apr 2017
So, I think we will have to rewrite the tea tag to remove the Git reference. Is there any other generic symbol that refer to VCS?
andreynering
on 20 Apr 2017
I would wait for the response from SF first.
jhasse
on 20 Apr 2017
I think VS Code changed git icon to this one because of license issues
kifirkin
on 20 Apr 2017
because of license issues
Do you have a source for this? I think it was because they added support for other VCSs, e.g. SVN.
jhasse
on 20 Apr 2017
@jhasse No I have no source of this icon :disappointed:
kifirkin
on 20 Apr 2017
@alexmironof i think he means a proof, not a source file
kolaente
on 20 Apr 2017
@jhasse They just improved it. No license issue.
Source: https://github.com/Microsoft/vscode/issues/18675#issuecomment-289680726
Daylien
on 20 Apr 2017
@bkcsoft
In addition, you may not use any of the Marks as a syllable in a new word or as part of a portmanteau (e.g., "Gitalicious", "Gitpedia") used as a mark for a third-party product or service without Conservancy's written permission. For the avoidance of doubt, this provision applies even to third-party marks that use the Marks as a syllable or as part of a portmanteau to refer to a product or service's use of Git code.
pgaskin
on 20 Apr 2017
So, we need a new name?
kolaente
on 20 Apr 2017
So, we need a new name?
Or Conservancy's written permission.
jhasse
on 20 Apr 2017
@jhasse @geek1011 @kolaente Just to clarify, I'm _not_ saying we should change the name. I'm just saying that we should _not_ put the git-logo in our logo, since that would just put us _more_ in violation with their trademark.
And the "punchline" Git with a cup of tea can still live on, even if the name might change in the future 馃槈
bkcsoft
on 21 Apr 2017
Like for many things, the name is an important aspect of an application. A name definitely can influence its development and future, in some ways, practical or more subtle.
"Gitea" is a nice name, still it seems to me it does not reflect the broader and deeper aspect of what it offers.
In my humble opinion, "Gitea" is cute and entertains of course an echo of culinary culture, perhaps also hinting to its possible social nature, but it does not fully convey its potential.
I am afraid an application of a much broader nature and so promising like this is would be negatively affected by a wrong name.
Unfortunately, to some cultures, even the name gogs might have been not a good choice.
This project would deserver a name deeply connected with its nature, with a short and nice sound (although two syllables do help form a rhythm), and it should have a unique feeling, charged with newness and enthusiasm , like its vision and its community.
Please consider changing the name of gitea. This is the right time, the beginning of a new phase, when the application is allowed to unfold more of its potential. Or, at least allow for more choices to come in, so that a freer deliberation could be made by the maintainers.
In any case, thank you so much for this wonderful app. It is truly a first-class app.
priyadarshan
on 21 Apr 2017
Another way would be to just take a branch of tea leafs, but I have no idea how to make that into a nice flat icon ;D
jcgruenhage
on 21 Apr 2017
@priyadarshan even now, changing the name will require a lot of work, since that would mean a lot of code changes, a new domain, moving this repo, and so on.
jcgruenhage
on 21 Apr 2017
A name is such a vital aspect to an application, that perhaps should be seen as a long term investment, worth the extra work. Of course, the more the wait, the more work it would require. Still, it should not be taken lightly, or hurriedly.
As per the domain name change, I pledge to donate $100 to support an eventual domain change, just let me know, in due time, where to donate.
I am just a very new, grateful user of gitea. I will be happy with whatever decision the maintainers will support.
priyadarshan
on 21 Apr 2017
I forgot the hardest part: Coming up with a good name. Anyone got any suggestions?
jcgruenhage
on 21 Apr 2017
Thank you for the chance. A possibility:
tigriver tig is a name for tag, and also git spelled backward. River implies the visual image of flowing together of all branches. It is a three-syllable, but seems pleasant to hear.
As far as I know, it does not seem to be used by a commercial company.
Edit: Other possibilities:
GitRiverPanGit(pan meaning "all-inclusive")GitGo
GitGo being my favourite.
priyadarshan
on 21 Apr 2017
FWIW: I like the current name of the project.
strk
on 21 Apr 2017
I propose to write an official inquiry to [email protected]
This will solve our doubts.
As for the name "Gitea" is very cool and eloquent - you can quickly remember.
@priyadarshan Git in reverse?? Poor concept.
lcges
on 21 Apr 2017
Sorry you did not like the first attempt. What do you think about the others?
It seems to me my initial comment is still pertinent.
Perhaps others would like to put more ideas on the table.
Edit: After searching, it seems the name tig is already been used to denote a git tool: Tig: text-mode interface for Git
priyadarshan
on 21 Apr 2017
@qdbdbp How about Gitter? It contains git in its name, but I think they have no problems with licensing
kifirkin
on 21 Apr 2017
@alexmironof I don't think that having git in the name is necessarily a problem, there also is GIThub, GITlab, GITolite, GITbucket, and probably a lot more. They however don't use the git logo in theirs, which might be more of a problem.
jcgruenhage
on 21 Apr 2017
I like both proposed logos so far. And those fresh color schemes! Here's another one to throw into the mix. Note the addition of the comma, too. :bowtie:
whilei
on 22 Apr 2017
@whilei I liked it. Very clean.
andreynering
on 22 Apr 2017
@whilei wow, i love it. Awesome work.
ulm0
on 22 Apr 2017
Thanks for the positive feedback. Here's another look at it.
Update: theoretical discussion (@jcgruenhage):
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/G
and alternatively something like below would more g-ish...?
whilei
on 23 Apr 2017
I can't see what the last logo should be, but I kinda like it.
jcgruenhage
on 23 Apr 2017
@whilei Very cool and nice concept.
I like the first one - it is better to name it.
lcges
on 24 Apr 2017
whilei
on 24 Apr 2017
whilei
on 24 Apr 2017
If the name does present a problem (which I agree is unlikely), or the project does not want to be tied only to Git, there is a lot of tea-related terminology to use as a name: camellia, kukicha, darjeeling, gaiwan, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea for more.
lofidevops
on 24 Apr 2017
I think we could keep gitea for name but
camellia, kukicha, darjeeling, gaiwan,
could be good names for releases
sapk
on 24 Apr 2017
There any summary of the vote?
lcges
on 16 May 2017
@qdbdbp (as of this writing) your logo won. Only problem is that is integrates the Git-logo which is in violation of the Git Trademark. Mind making one that does not use said logo?
was sugggested earlier as a close enough substitute 馃檪
bkcsoft
on 16 May 2017
So let's move this to v1.3
lunny
on 25 May 2017
As for 3
Just a quick heads-up on both though... Using the Git-logo in our logo is actually not legal: https://git-scm.com/trademark ... And technically neither is using the term "Git" in the name :roll_eyes:
So before starting to use this logo, we should send an email to [email protected] asking if it's okey...
Any news here?
kolaente
on 14 Jun 2017
For such legal questions, the FSFE is offering some help for free software projects like this. The lawyers answering your request will also be able to give an estimation on whether you're safe with the trademark issue.
Write to: [email protected]
More info: https://fsfe.org/activities/ftf/licence-questions.en.html
mxmehl
on 21 Jun 2017
@qdbdbp could you give SVG files for logo?
lafriks
on 20 Jul 2017
As @bkcsoft raised concern about git logo copyright I would propose this with same concept and colors as logo that won just without using git logo
lafriks
on 21 Jul 2017
Why did you do this instead of writing to [email protected]?
jhasse
on 21 Jul 2017
@jhasse I have created svg files for proposed one and this one, to me both ar fine :) So I will just let @go-gitea/owners to decide ;)
lafriks
on 21 Jul 2017
I see :)
Btw: The 32px version in the new one is nice!
jhasse
on 21 Jul 2017
I like it more than the old one, mostly because the angle looks more natural, and the corners are nicer.
jcgruenhage
on 21 Jul 2017
As requested by @lunny here are some other options for small icon:
1) 
- :+1:
2) 
- :smile:
3) 
- :tada:
4) 
- :heart:
Vote by respective reactions (vote with :-1: for same as large icon)
lafriks
on 22 Jul 2017
I love the @whilei 's second design: https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1516#issuecomment-296441534, it's very smooth, looks special, and it also looks good in small icon. Why not include that into the vote?
twang2218
on 23 Jul 2017
@twang2218 because @whilei 's designs are posted many days after the previous two. Except we begin a new vote, that's unfair.
lunny
on 23 Jul 2017
fine, but it looks real nice.
twang2218
on 23 Jul 2017
I'm a huge fan of the git tea that's sprouting from the tea seed. Not so much the letter g, but that next one is pretty slick. :)
MTecknology
on 23 Jul 2017
Ya, @whilei designs are really badass!
ulm0
on 23 Jul 2017
I don't mean to butt-in or cause confusion, but thought I would add a separate poll in case it may be helpful. My designs were posted 4 and 5 days (respectively) after the initial logo proposals.
| logo | name |
| --- | --- |
| 
| g |
| 
| cup |
| 
| sprout |
whilei
on 23 Jul 2017
@whilei but still your designs got less votes than @qdbdbp so it was decided to use it and just modify not to have copyright issues with git logo.
lafriks
on 24 Jul 2017
lcges
on 24 Jul 2017
In my opinion, I lost the original idea of the logo that I designed.
Now the proposal @whilei seems to me more interesting, more modern.
Maybe as we work on the original colors of "Gitea" we will work out some good logotyp.
lcges
on 25 Jul 2017
@qdbdbp @whilei design is nice but somehow I don't like shades in background
lafriks
on 25 Jul 2017
Which is the new logo? When we will have a decision? I think posting more logos will not make it easier to determine which logo is "the best".
jonasfranz
on 27 Jul 2017
see #2194
lunny
on 27 Jul 2017
@lunny I think @whilei logos looks more modern and more professionally designed than @qdbdbp and why community doesnt choose them?
The answer is simple - 2 days delay. People opened this issue and choosed from two logos first, voted and then never opened this issue again.
I think good idea to start voting from scratch and post all logos at once so everybody have some more options to choose from
kifirkin
on 31 Aug 2017
Before this issue, there were others with lots of ideas (#1121, #1260, #1312). To open yet another one will just result in bike-shedding.
jhasse
on 31 Aug 2017
3 issues with 6 logos, nice :rofl: Why not to gather them all in one place? And this is proof that in #1516 people just vote for 2 well known logos.
Also @qdbdbp mentioned @whilei logo is more modern and interesting.
P.S. Look carefully at Gogs logo - it is also well designed.
I dont want to hurt somebody feelings, but current logo seem like "Hello from 90's"
kifirkin
on 31 Aug 2017
Also if you subtract downvotes from upvotes - the winner is @kolaente
kifirkin
on 31 Aug 2017
At some point you'll have to settle on a logo.
And this is proof that in #1516 people just vote for 2 well known logos.
Yes, because those were the two most popular suggestions at the time.
Also if you subtract downvotes from upvotes - the winner is @kolaente
Voting is over, the current state isn't representative anymore (for example people who dislike the logo on try.gitea.io might come here and downvote it).
jhasse
on 31 Aug 2017
Voting is over, the current state isn't representative anymore (for example people who dislike the logo on try.gitea.io might come here and downvote it).
The state of downvotes was correct at the time when pull request arrived, it doesn't changed so much through time.
Millions of lemmings can't be wrong!
If you think rationally not only community votes makes good choice
kifirkin
on 31 Aug 2017
Also only clear thinking mades my decision to move from gogs to gitea, because it seems unmaintained, but community choose gogs(it has about 20k stars)
kifirkin
on 31 Aug 2017
The state of downvotes was correct at the time when pull request arrived
I didn't know that. I guess if down-votes were to be substracted from the voting, that should have been made clear in the beginning. Without explicit mentioning I wouldn't expect it.
If you think rationally not only community votes makes good choice
Yes, so?
but community choose gogs(it has about 20k stars)
Gogs was around a lot longer that's why it has more stars.
jhasse
on 31 Aug 2017
GOGS is a older project - compared to him, the new project is stupidity.
Do you think people will not go to Gitea because there is a "different" logo than Gogs?
lcges
on 31 Aug 2017
Gogs was around a lot longer that's why it has more stars.
It has more start because of nice logo :wink:
kifirkin
on 31 Aug 2017
It has more start because of nice logo :wink:
No, it didn't even have the current logo from the beginning.
jhasse
on 31 Aug 2017
Yes, previous logo seems more popular :smile:
http://www.timqian.com/star-history/#go-gitea/gitea
kifirkin
on 31 Aug 2017
Why do you think that? I don't see any decline of the gradient since July.
jhasse
on 31 Aug 2017
From start up it has a huge gain.
So I think we should stop flooding about personal decisions. My decision is good looking, professianally designed and modern logo
kifirkin
on 31 Aug 2017
@alexmironof The decision was made to use the logo with the most votes. If you think it's so bad that there needs to be a new vote, open a new issue with objective arguments against the current logo. If enough people agree with you, a new vote could be proposed, but I don't see it happening.
People chose for the current logo, and if anything is bad for brand identity, it's changing logos every few months.
lesderid
on 31 Aug 2017
@lesderid If anythings is bad for brand identity it is only a bad brand identity position.
Like choosing not the best logo available or bad contribution model
kifirkin
on 31 Aug 2017
Isn't it very simple to override the logo in custom/ ? Please focus your effort on getting a new release out instead of logo bikeshedding.
ptman
on 31 Aug 2017
Please suggest some modern logo that you think is correct.
At this time it's just trolling.
We focus on important things - the logo theme was already considered.
If you have a problem with this, maybe it's better to be with Gogs because it has a better logo.
I think Gitea is already bright years ahead of Gogs with an "ugly" logo ...
lcges
on 31 Aug 2017
Ive suggested it before
kifirkin
on 31 Aug 2017
The vote is over and a logo have been taken and integrated.
tboerger
on 31 Aug 2017
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Logo by @qdbdbp https://github.com/go-gitea/gitea/issues/1260#issuecomment-290051119
