
I've heard a number of reports that people have to google the starters library to find it e.g. https://github.com/gatsbyjs/gatsby/pull/12622. I often have trouble finding the link as well.
The problem arises because a) you have to know to open the ecosystem nav and b) if you have "guides" open, this is remembered when you return which means that ecosystem is now pushed very far down the screen so you might not even see if as you scroll by.
Moving the starter/plugin/awesome links to the top might be the right solution. Or perhaps a tweak to how the sidebar nav works in general.
Could those items go into the top level of the sidebar instead of being in a collapsed accordion? That might help with discoverability too.
Yeah hmm, not sure why "documentation" is collapsible. /cc @shannonbux @fk
Could those items go into the top level of the sidebar instead of being in a collapsed accordion? That might help with discoverability too.
Yes, they can.
Yeah hmm, not sure why "documentation" is collapsible.
Yes, that makes no sense and is my bad. Will get a PR going to fix this. Currently thinking that it'd be nice to have a headline for the whole sidebar for mobile ("Documentation", "Tutorial", etc.).
Yeah hmm, not sure why "documentation" is collapsible.
I just saw that this actually was added in https://github.com/gatsbyjs/gatsby/pull/9898/files#diff-355f19a97a68170ef2cd96a7e96c3398 to
show distinctly where the user is.
As I wrote above, I can follow that thought. Taking a look now!
Thinking about this specific issue again — we already have https://www.gatsbyjs.org/ecosystem/ as a landing page for plugins and starters.
I guess we soon will have themes (at least ;-)) next to starters … maybe now is the right time to replace the main nav's "Plugins" with "Ecosystem"? (related: https://github.com/gatsbyjs/gatsby/pull/12622#issuecomment-475737352)
^ Found some mockups for this from last year in https://github.com/gatsbyjs/gatsby/issues/7544#issuecomment-416998865:



The reason "documentation" is collapsible was to give a sense of context
since the tutorial and doc sidebars look exactly the same and the top nav
bar isn't always a clear enough indicator to people about where they are.
E.g. lots of people in tutorial usability tests try to compare the quick
start guide to the tutorial by toggling back and forth between them and
then say "wait, where am I?" because they look the same but the sidebars
have different content.
So the overall problem to solve is just making it clear that you're either
in docs or the tutorial and/or making it easier to compare tutorial to
quick start w/o confusing people. The way we get that done could be to make
them clearly different designs (color + something else for people who don't
use color as a differentiator)
I agree that "documentation" as a category name isn't the best long term
solution.
Also, I think using using ecosystem now could be the right time, @fk! Will
take a look at sidebar PR right now
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^ Found some mockups for this from last year in #7544 (comment)
https://github.com/gatsbyjs/gatsby/issues/7544#issuecomment-416998865:[image: desktop_ ecosystem]
https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/21834/44797652-fdc56a00-abaf-11e8-96f3-59a70c15ddc0.png[image: mobile_ ecosystem]
https://user-images.githubusercontent.com/21834/44797999-c0151100-abb0-11e8-8e57-3c725ac467ef.png[image: desktop_ expo]
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The reason "documentation" is collapsible was to give a sense of context
since the tutorial and doc sidebars look exactly the same and the top nav
bar isn't always a clear enough indicator to people about where they are.
E.g. lots of people in tutorial usability tests try to compare the quick
start guide to the tutorial by toggling back and forth between them and
then say "wait, where am I?" because they look the same but the sidebars
have different content.
So the overall problem to solve is just making it clear that you're either
in docs or the tutorial and/or making it easier to compare tutorial to
quick start w/o confusing people. The way we get that done could be to make
them clearly different designs (color + something else for people who don't
use color as a differentiator)
I agree that "documentation" as a category name isn't the best long term
solution.
Also, I think using using ecosystem now could be the right time, @fk! Will
take a look at sidebar PR right now
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