Why/User Benefit/User Problem
As a regular user of Pocket, I'd like to be able to see the items I have in my list, and be able to access them from my browser.
What/Requirements
In addition to putting stuff in Pocket, a user should be able to access previous content they have Pocket'ed.
Acceptance Criteria (how do I know when I’m done?)
I realise that Pocket is also a separate app, and putting all that functionality here is not feasible or desired, but Firefox should have some level of integration with Pocket.
The least amount of work I'd expect is to have a "View my Pocket" button near the my collections list. This button will open the app if it exists, or the website.
A slightly better integration would let the user view their recently Pocket'ed items in Firefox, and let the user open Pocket for full list.
kumarharsh
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Please keep Pocket restricted to an extension, once support for those arrives.
silanea
on 29 Jun 2019
@silanea: If there will be any prominent Pocket integration like the recommendations on the start screen in the old Firefox an option to disable it would be totally fine. If it's only something like a button to save something in the personal Pocket list and to access the Pocket list then I don't even need an option, but bonus points for provide such an option. Anyway, there is no reason why it has to be an extension, especially since Pocket is a service owned by Mozilla and not an arbitrary third party.
cadeyrn
on 29 Jun 2019
@cadeyrn Not to open a discussion on Pocket itself, but every single line of code is a maintenance debt. Doubly so when the code interacts with a remote service. Fenix is being advertised as a lean secure browser. Integrating Pocket (or any other remote service) increases its attack surface and risk of bugs. Since it is a non-essential service and, to the best of my knowledge, not a very widely used one, I see no justification for including it in the browser itself.
silanea
on 29 Jun 2019
Not to open a discussion on Pocket itself,
You made it a discussion about Pocket itself.
not a very widely used one
More than 30 million users according to Bloomberg, and you say "not widely used"? I am not even sure if there are so many Firefox users on Android. Also maintenance debt is not a strong argument, you can argue against everything with maintenance dept. And an extension has also maintenance costs.
Maybe you don't know it but there is already a pocket integration in the old Firefox for Android, in Firefox for Amazon, in Firefox for Desktop and in Firefox for iOS. Why should the new Firefox for Android be the only Firefox browser without any Pocket feature? And you also know that Pocket is one part of Mozilla's business? So it totally makes sense for Mozilla to use Firefox for pushing Pocket.
If you don't like it, okay. That's why I said that an option to disable an integration is a good thing. But it doesn't mean that there shouldn't be any kind of integration by default.
Fenix is being advertised as a lean secure browser.
Providing some kind of Pocket integration doesn't change anything about the "secure" claim. I've never heard "lean" in the Fenix context. It's a new browser and has not many features because of that but this will change for sure. A browser has not to be "lean", a browser has to be fast and offer features for the target audience. And Pocket is about a) task continuity (save to list, as in Firefox for Desktop) and b) content discovery (recommendations as in the old Firefox for Android and in Firefox for Desktop). Both makes a lot of sense for a browser.
Integrating Pocket (or any other remote service) increases its attack surface and risk of bugs
Well, yet another argument you can bring against everything. I use Firefox products because I trust Mozilla that they know how to develop secure applications. When there are bugs or vulnerabilities they have to be fixed. But there can always be bugs and vulnerabilities and if not in Pocket code then in other code.
I see no justification for including it in the browser itself.
You don't have to use it but providing useful features, integrating a service already used by millions of users AND pushing an own service and business are more than enough justification. There are a lot of other potential features with less justification.
cadeyrn
on 30 Jun 2019
Why was the pocket integration removed in the new Firefox? This was an amazing feature in the old Firefox.
Dakkaron
on 8 Nov 2020
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You made it a discussion about Pocket itself.
More than 30 million users according to Bloomberg, and you say "not widely used"? I am not even sure if there are so many Firefox users on Android. Also maintenance debt is not a strong argument, you can argue against everything with maintenance dept. And an extension has also maintenance costs.
Maybe you don't know it but there is already a pocket integration in the old Firefox for Android, in Firefox for Amazon, in Firefox for Desktop and in Firefox for iOS. Why should the new Firefox for Android be the only Firefox browser without any Pocket feature? And you also know that Pocket is one part of Mozilla's business? So it totally makes sense for Mozilla to use Firefox for pushing Pocket.
If you don't like it, okay. That's why I said that an option to disable an integration is a good thing. But it doesn't mean that there shouldn't be any kind of integration by default.
Providing some kind of Pocket integration doesn't change anything about the "secure" claim. I've never heard "lean" in the Fenix context. It's a new browser and has not many features because of that but this will change for sure. A browser has not to be "lean", a browser has to be fast and offer features for the target audience. And Pocket is about a) task continuity (save to list, as in Firefox for Desktop) and b) content discovery (recommendations as in the old Firefox for Android and in Firefox for Desktop). Both makes a lot of sense for a browser.
Well, yet another argument you can bring against everything. I use Firefox products because I trust Mozilla that they know how to develop secure applications. When there are bugs or vulnerabilities they have to be fixed. But there can always be bugs and vulnerabilities and if not in Pocket code then in other code.
You don't have to use it but providing useful features, integrating a service already used by millions of users AND pushing an own service and business are more than enough justification. There are a lot of other potential features with less justification.