Feedback: Automatically translated docs makes no sense.

[michalzubkowicz]

Link to article:
It's on every page

Problem:
Text make no sense, because it's automatically translated. When you search something in Google, you are directed to national version of docs, which is automatically translated.

It makes whole docs unusable. Everybody I know hates this feature. People are even writing own browser plugins to redirect to English version.

[yumetodo]

People are even writing own browser plugins to redirect to English version.

?

As far as I know, Microsoft docs provide a button to watch English version.

[EdisonDa]

@michalzubkowicz what locals are you looking at? Yes, some of the content were translated automatically, but you can read them with local language and English side by side.
Please give me an example page where you think the translation is really bad, we can improve the content.

[michalzubkowicz]

You are both right it can be switched, but did you ever switch something 1000 times per day? It's not permanent.

Workflow with docs.microsoft.com in Poland looks like this:
1) Enter search phrase in google.
2) Open docs page
3) Switch language
4) Sometimes switching language doesn't work so you have to manually change language in url.

Wonderful user experience ;).

I thought like You, until I started to need to look more often at these docs.
When you are searching through pages, checking docs all the time, it's really driving nuts.

@EdisonDa, translation is really bad on EVERY page, really I didn't see any with good translation:
This is barely understandable:
https://docs.microsoft.com/pl-pl/aspnet/core/client-side/bundling-and-minification?view=aspnetcore-2.1&tabs=visual-studio%2Caspnetcore2x

You can open every page from left side menu and it's same translation quality.

[EdisonDa]

@SonjaSaltzman assign this one to you, could you please take a look?

[yumetodo]

@michalzubkowicz I think that local-lang English switch flag should be stored to cokkie or some storage and reflect the stored flag to page every you open microsoft docs. How do you think?

[michalzubkowicz]

@yumetodo
I think it would be great if it could be persistent that way.

Cookie is simpler in implementation and more reliable than localStorage.

[he852100]

The idea of using browser plug-ins to translate documents is pretty bad.Every time a link is opened, it will consume a lot of resources and repeat meaningless work. Today, I visited "acc.com/dd/ddda" for the ten time. It will be repeated many times.CPU usage rate is high.

I hope more documents will be translated permanently.(Of course, manual translation is better.)

[EdisonDa]

@he852100 @yumetodo @michalzubkowicz thank you all for your participation. When I try this feature, the flag will keep there when I browser the page in the same tab.

[yumetodo]

in the same tab

We are proposing when we open microsoft docs on other tab or other window.

[michalzubkowicz]

@EdisonDa
@yumetodo has right. Main problem is when page is entered from search (Google / Bing), or a new tab. Internal navigation is smaller concern.

Most of navigation thorught docs is on many tabs, many topics. Nobody is reading docs from start to end :)

[michalzubkowicz]

Any update on this?

We have still making tired with hilarious translations like on this page:
https://docs.microsoft.com/pl-pl/aspnet/core/client-side/less-sass-fa?view=aspnetcore-2.1
"Mniejsza, Sass i czcionki świetny w platformy ASP.NET Core"
It sounds like:
"Little, Sass and fonts great! in plaform ASP.NET Core"

It's really doesn't disturb anyone in Microsoft that on company's pages there is such ridiculous content?

[SonjaSaltzman]

@JasonCard and @DavidPrio could you please address this? I am sorry this slipped through the cracks!

[JasonCard]

Hi @michalzubkowicz

Thank you for your feedback and we're terribly sorry for the delay in addressing your feedback.
Regarding machine translation, we will take your feedback into consideration for upgrading Polish to human translation.
Regarding the "Read in English" option, we currently have a feature request to make this option stay persistant in new tabs, so you do not have to re-select this option for new tabs.
We will let you know when this new feature is deployed to production.

Kind regards,
Microsoft DOCS International Team
cc @DavidPrio @SonjaSaltzman

[CeciAc]

Hi @JasonCard
Please, reach us if any action further is needed on our side regarding this issue

@DavidPrio

[JasonCard]

Hi @michalzubkowicz

Regarding the "Read in English" option, feature to make this option stay persistant in new tabs has been implemented. Please give it a try and let me know if the issue is still not resolved.

Kind regards,
Microsoft DOCS International Team

[michalzubkowicz]

@JasonCard works like charm, thank you guys very much!

[JasonCard]

@michalzubkowicz thank you for confirming!