Element-web: for a room where messages are unread, the name of the room is without emphasis (as if all messages are read)

[grahamperrin]

Description

In the example above, https://riot.im/develop/#/room/#bsd:matrix.org 2017-04-28 03:08 BST:

• the name of the room 'bsd' appeared in a regular typeface (not bold), implying that all messages were read
• the prompt to jump implied that some messages were unread.

In this case, based on my memory of the content of the room, the prompt to jump is believable but re: https://github.com/vector-im/riot-web/issues/3746#issuecomment-297886785 when clicked, there is no jump.

Steps to reproduce

Basically: in the left hand column, I clicked the room.

That's far from a set of steps – sorry – but whilst #3746 seems to be a complication of this issue (or vice versa), if I attempt to make things reproducible, I'll probably become terribly confused.

Version information

• Firefox 53.0 (64-bit)
• TrueOS Desktop

$ about

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General information
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boot environment now (N) … 12.0-CURRENT-up-20170330_080908 NR 2017-03-30
       after restart (R) … 12.0-CURRENT-up-20170330_080908 NR 2017-03-30
boot loader …………………………………… BSD
            type ……………………… EFI
CPU ………………………………………………………… Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5600U CPU @ 2.60GHz
    number of cores ……………… 4
host ……………………………………………………… momh167-gjp4-hpelitebook850g2-trueos.university.brighton.ac.uk
memory ………………………………………………… 16384 MB available, 2999 MB free
OS git branch ……………………………………………………………………………………… drm-next
OS git revision ………………………………………………………………………………… a009033ff
OS kernel build time ………………………………………………………… Wed 2017 Mar 29 20:13:33 UTC
OS kernel identity …………………………………………… (uname -i) GENERIC
OS platform (architecture) ……………………… (uname -m) amd64
OS release level ………………………………………………… (uname -r) 12.0-CURRENT
OS version and patch level …… (freebsd-version) 12.0-CURRENT
TrueOS package set ………………… CUSTOM
TrueOS version …………………………… TrueOS-Desktop-201703201429
uptime ………………………………………………… 10:03
user  …………………………………………………… grahamperrin

More (TrueOS Desktop):

    desktop environment …… KDE
    sound card driver ………… pcm1: <Realtek (0x0280) (Analog 2.0+HP/2.0)> on hdaa1  (1p:2v/1r:4v) default
    wireless driver ……………… iwm0
    X11 drivers ………………………… intel_drv.so 

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[lukebarnard1]

The "boldness" of the room name is based on "unread" count which is different state to the RM. Perhaps we could give a RoomTile boldness if the RM !== RR.

Would that make sense @richvdh ? I vaguely remember you possibly suggesting this or similar?

[richvdh]

I don't remember proposing that. I suspect this might be something which depends a bit on user preference. You might want to check with @ara4n.

[grahamperrin]

I'm a little confused. https://matrix.to/#/!DgvjtOljKujDBrxyHk:matrix.org/$1493346605753696tmtvE:matrix.org

If a room has no unread messages, then the name of the room appears without emphasis (appears regular, not bold). True?

yes

Does a room also appear regular (not bold) when there are a few unread messages?

[lampholder]

I've flagged this as a UX bug because it seems like there's some ambiguity in the meaning of room tile boldness.

It certainly isn't obvious what a 'fix' would be, but suggests we should have a think about what needs expressing and how we might more unambiguously express it :)

[ara4n]

the intention is that unread messages of any kind = bold. unread messages which are notifs = badge with number of notifs. if any of those notifs are "noisy", then the badge is red, otherwise green.

[ara4n]

https://github.com/vector-im/riot-web/issues/3363 is the metabug for this.

[ara4n]

in terms of the earlier discussion of whether RM should be considered in the unreadness of a room - life's too short. If there have been messages since you send an RR, it should be bold; otherwise, not.

[grahamperrin]

the intention is that unread messages of any kind = bold. …

:+1: that's intuitive. Thanks.

If it helps: with /dev/ I most often find the _absence_ of boldness after switching to a room, then away, then back to the room and there's a prompt to jump to an unread message. I trust the prompt to jump.

earlier discussion of whether RM should be considered in the unreadness of a room … If there have been messages since you send an RR, it should be bold; otherwise, not.

I haven't got my head around that sort of thing yet. Maybe a few pennies will drop all at once, maybe I'll get a bigger picture, after a few more days' use of /dev/.