Electricitymap-contrib: Data for Pakistan

[UPstartDeveloper]

We haven't found the data for this region yet, but that doesn't mean you can't make it happen!

Ranked from best to useful information, here is what we could use:

• real-time data of energy generation by energy source
• historical data of energy generation by energy source (as recent and as granular as possible)
• contact details (contact form, email or social media) of someone who may have access to that data
• contact details (contact form, email or social media) of an organisation which may have access to that data

[UPstartDeveloper]

Thanks to whoever wrote the text for the previous comment!

[UPstartDeveloper]

So far I have not been able to find any real-time data on how Pakistan generates its energy, or by which energy source its energy is coming from.

For historical data, the CEIC website looks somewhat promising, but it's not very granular: https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/pakistan. Please use Command+F and search for "production". They have data on Pakistan's electricity production for every calendar month between April 2018-March 2019. The website above DOES NOT break down the energy generation by source however. For example, data on electricity, coal, and natural gas production are found on separate pages.

[UPstartDeveloper]

As for an organization/person that could help, I think our best bet is the Government of Pakistan's (sometimes abbreviated GOP) Ministry of Energy (Power Division) http://www.mowp.gov.pk/.

Here are the top 3 individuals I suggest contacting:

Officials:

1. Mr. Omar Ayub Khan, Federal Minister
   PHONE: [phone]
   FAX: [phone]
2. Mr. Zahoor Hussain Qureshi, Parliamentary Secretary
   PHONE: [phone]
   FAX: not found
3. Mr. Irfan Ali, Federal Secretary
   PHONE: [phone]
   FAX: [phone]
4. A full list of ministry officials can be found here: http://www.mowp.gov.pk/frmDetails.aspx

I am not sure whether or not the phone and fax numbers listed below each name here are extensions. In case they are, then here are the phone and fax numbers of the Ministry of Energy (Power Division) itself:
PHONE: [phone]
FAX: [phone]

More info on telephone numbers in Pakistan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_numbers_in_Pakistan

[martincollignon]

Zain, this is great. Since you know the country and the language - could
you help us out and reach out to them?

On Mon, Oct 14, 2019, 19:21 Zain Raza [e-mail] wrote:

As for an organization/person that could help, I think our best bet is the
Government of Pakistan's (sometimes abbreviated GOP) Ministry of Energy
(Power Division) http://www.mowp.gov.pk/.

Here are the top 3 individuals I suggest contacting:

Officials:

1. Mr. Omar Ayub Khan, Federal Minister
   PHONE: [phone]
   FAX: [phone]
2. Mr. Zahoor Hussain Qureshi, Parliamentary Secretary
   PHONE: [phone]
   FAX: not found
3. Mr. Irfan Ali, Federal Secretary
   PHONE: [phone]
   FAX: [phone]
4. A full list of ministry officials can be found here:
   http://www.mowp.gov.pk/frmDetails.aspx

I am not sure whether or not the phone and fax numbers listed below each
name here are extensions. In case they are, then here are the phone and fax
numbers of the Ministry of Energy (Power Division) itself:
PHONE: [phone]
FAX: [phone]

More info on telephone numbers in Pakistan:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telephone_numbers_in_Pakistan

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[UPstartDeveloper]

Of course!

[UPstartDeveloper]

It looks like they are not answering at this time. Possibly because it is 11:35 pm in Islamabad, Pakistan right now. Will try to call them again later!

[systemcatch]

Direct link to CEIC data - https://www.ceicdata.com/en/indicator/pakistan/electricity-production

Renewable energy info - https://www.iea.org/policiesandmeasures/renewableenergy/?country=Pakistan

Further contacts
Water and Power Development Authority - http://www.wapda.gov.pk/
Karachi Electric - https://www.ke.com.pk/

[alixunderplatz]

National Transmission & Despatch Company:
https://www.ntdc.com.pk/

[UPstartDeveloper]

I just sent out a message to Adil Najam (https://www.linkedin.com/in/adilnajam/) asking if can help. He's the Inaugural Dean of the Pardee School of Global Studies, which is a part Boston University, located in Boston Massachusetts. He is also very interested in helping countries in the developing world evolve, and I know that he's from Pakistan as well.

[UPstartDeveloper]

Hey team!
I looked at the IEA site (huge thanks to Chris @systemcatch) - and it looks spectacular!

I found a specific URL on that site that has the information for Pakistan's _historical electricity generation by source_ - so anyone's who's interested should definitely take a look at this link instead, because unfortunately the link above leads to a 404 page: https://www.iea.org/countries/pakistan

What do you think the next steps should be @martincollignon ? I can resume looking for real time data. Meanwhile is this historical data enough to build the parser?

[q--]

Installed capacity: https://www.ntdc.com.pk/energy

http://www.cppa.gov.pk/ looks interesting, but unfortunately the 'updated' fields are empty and the variable names under the hood, MarketGlanceDate, ChartsDates etc suggest that the data is by day and not real-time

http://roshanpakistan.pk/pp/ has info about generation for the previous day

I'm not entirely sure what I"m looking at, though. Summing the "Supply" column in the table to the right at CPPA.gov.pk gives me 16 419,73 MW, where RoshanPakistan.pk has 9,983 as "Generation". The latter also talks about "Average Demand" and "Average Drawl", so maybe it's because they're averages

[UPstartDeveloper]

@q-- thanks for adding your thoughts and links!

I will email [email protected] to ask about how often the "Market at a Glance" table is updated, and if that has anything to do with why the discrepancy exists.

[Huzi1]

@UPstartDeveloper On search to find some data, I think I got something here
https://opendata.com.pk/dataset/precon-pakistan-residential-electricity-consumption-dataset