Several issues created on this repository leave me with the impression they are based on a fundamental misunderstanding of the basic concept of the application.
Presenting that comic on the front page of this repository (and possibly all other repositories for the app) might help to spread the knowledge about how the application is supposed to work.
I'm referring to this comic: https://github.com/DP-3T/documents/tree/master/public_engagement/cartoon
We are building a website for this project. Maybe we can add a comic like this to the new website.
I will provide your ticket as input to our web designers and comms team :)
I second that, please include at least the comic from https://github.com/DP-3T and refer to the DP-3T documents more prominently.
I am also in favor of this idea. In the original DP-3T idea User "Alice" only made identifyable through an active and voluntary act without any further incentives or additional nudging created by mixing functions (see closed issue #23).
User "Bob" is considered anonymous as long as he is just collecting IDs.
Issue #13 stands in clear contrast to the original nature of the idea when tresholds and data are manipulated remotly directly on Bobs' devices. This is intended though a centrlazied content management system and also violates the decentralized approach and nature.
The not shown evil user "Eve" gets additional tracking possibilities and markers for deanonymization due to the fact of just collecting behavioral data of "Bob" when using dynamic content, reading faq documents, watching videos, opening websites within or triggered by the Corona-Warning-App.
The RKI Corona-Warning-App with its current documented state and feature-set stands in stark contrast to this DP-3T comic.
Like @tkowark said in #13 we should wait until more docs are provided.
From my point of view it's your conclusion that data is being "manipulated" remotely, we don't know yet until more docs and details are provided.
Like @tkowark said in #13 we should wait until more docs are provided.
From my point of view it's your conclusion that data is being "manipulated" remotely, we don't know yet until more docs and details are provided.
Well as already mentioned elsewehere I am looking forward though if the features aka "User Stories" and documentation already are ridiculous, how code can become better?
Well as already mentioned elsewehere I am looking forward though if the features aka "User Stories" and documentation already are ridiculous, how code can become better?
Maybe by providing constructive feedback and refrain from condescending remarks? 馃槈
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Maybe by providing constructive feedback and refrain from condescending remarks? 馃槈
You're right. Well though nobody was harmed please let me put it in another way.
When the comic sets sails in one direction, and the known documentation is already actively sailing in another, then I can't imagine how more documentation or a single line of code can reconcile these opposing positions. More of the same? We should donate SAP and Telekom some books of Gunter Dueck.
the alice and bob scenario is only directing away from the fact that this app is a client without a server. the QR code is an "air gapped" way to avoid a registration and interaction with a server (a CRM system for contact tracing teams) which would complete the use case. adding a third party of a call center (hotline) in front of the health authority will add new privacy issues and does not replace a missing specification of the client-server protocol.
the design flaws of DP3T are replicated by not defining the relation to the federated network of 400 health authorities, and the interoperability and scalabliity with manual contact tracing and their backend software (SORMAS) as well as the upcoming registration backend DEMIS by rki.
the design flaws of DP3T are replicated..
seems to me it's not just replicated, important considerations and security issues are left out deliberatly when reading this comment
https://github.com/corona-warn-app/cwa-documentation/issues/41#issuecomment-629083682
We already mentioned that we forward this proposal to our designers. Until we have something here, I'd like to ask you to stay on topic and only discuss visual extensions to the documentation/website here.
If you want to discuss protocol-related aspects, please either reach out to Apple and Google (for the foundation protocol) or open a dedicated issue in case it affects the Corona-Warn-App itself. Thank you for your understanding.
I like the idea of that comic a lot. The technology seems a little bit different, but for non technical people similar enough.
For tech people I have done a video to explain the contact tracing specification from google and apple here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GARHDP99ECs Not sure if it is correct, but maybe it does help to understand.
Unclear for me is when this implementation is availabel in which smartphones
Link will be added to README with https://github.com/corona-warn-app/cwa-documentation/pull/385 and we also add the official explanation video to the website: https://github.com/corona-warn-app/cwa-website/pull/198
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Maybe by providing constructive feedback and refrain from condescending remarks? 馃槈