Cura: profiles settings not matching up in the application

[64Florian]

Application version
See on 4.6.0 tested Ko too in 4.2.1
Work great on 3.5.1, 2.7.0

Platform
Mac OS 10.12.6 (16G1510)
iMac (Retina 5K, 27 pouces, fin 2015)
4 GHz Intel Core i7
AMD Radeon R9 M395 2048 Mo

Printer
Tevo tarentula

Reproduction steps

1. find an old profile with "custom" speed in (profile in the application)
2. Check values in profile manager

Screenshot(s)

Actual results
Values are not the same

Expected results
Both match

Project file
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Log file
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Additional information
tevo_tarantula_100%C2%B5_renne_demo_hd.inst.cfg.zip
as I can see:

• if you try to create a new profile with custom speed, profile manager show as "no modification" (on 4.6.0)
• If you open an Old profile data mismatch (see in my zip if you can reproduce in your side the same issue as show in my attached picture)
• As I can see, on 4.6.0, the CFG (for profile) file is empty of all speed_* event if you have made changes
• But the CFG (for profile EXTRUDER) have the speed_* !!

Please have a look

Note : My "extruder" panel is empty

PS :
I open this ticket after the request of @Ghostkeeper :
https://github.com/Ultimaker/Cura/issues/7605#issuecomment-620939252

[Ghostkeeper]

The real problem here is that the extruder settings appear in the global tab. They are probably using the value from the global stack there then, which gets overridden by a quality profile or material.

[64Florian]

Thank you for this highlighting of this problem !
I found why since few versions I'm not able to tune my speed anymore !

As I can see in my cfg files, I have a file (2019-09-23) with following settings inside

In fact I use Cura at least since version 2.7.0
all the time I upgrade and hop to preserve my "precious" settings
I have more or less use those version :
2.7.0
Cura-3.1.0-Darwin(Ultimaker ) (not really used or removed from my computer)
Ultimaker Cura-3.2.0-Darwin (not really used or removed from my computer)
Ultimaker Cura-3.5.0-Darwin (not really used or removed from my computer)
Ultimaker Cura-3.5.1-Darwin
Ultimaker_Cura-3.6.0-Darwin
Ultimaker_Cura-4.1.0-Darwin (not really used)
Ultimaker_Cura-4.2.1-Darwin

As I can see, my "saumon torture test" was made with 4.2.1 version from a fork of an older profil and have 2 settings ...
"Good" news this version (4.2.1) was still able to display properly those settings


and as far as I can see the files and the screen seem to match

If I create a new profile from scratch I have this:

cfg file content as expected

Note: 4.2.1 have setting_version = 8 and with 4.6.1 it's setting_version = 13

[64Florian]

In 4.5.0 it was already broken

same thing with 4.4.0-BETA
still digging

[64Florian]

Test method :

• load "normal" profile
• change speed
• save as new profile
• check in profile manager

With 4.3.0-BETA I think I have a strange behavior: I have speed in global and extruder ...

[64Florian]

Tested OK with 4.3.0 final (setting_version = 9)
Tested Ko with 4.4.0 beta-pre-release (setting_version = 10)

diff 4.3/quality_changes/tevo_tarantula_fdmextruder_demo_speed_4.3.0_final.inst.cfg
 4.4/quality_changes/tevo_tarantula_fdmextruder_demo_speed_4.4.0_alpha.inst.cfg 
3c3
< name = Demo speed 4.3.0 Final
---
> name = Demo Speed 4.4.0 Alpha
7,8c7,8
< position = 0
< type = quality_changes
---
> intent_category = default
> setting_version = 10
10c10,11
< setting_version = 9
---
> type = quality_changes
> position = 0
13,23c14,24
< skirt_brim_speed = 53
< speed_infill = 44
< speed_layer_0 = 50
< speed_print = 43
< speed_print_layer_0 = 51
< speed_topbottom = 48
< speed_travel = 49
< speed_travel_layer_0 = 52
< speed_wall = 45
< speed_wall_0 = 46
< speed_wall_x = 47
---
> skirt_brim_speed = 54
> speed_infill = 45
> speed_layer_0 = 51
> speed_print = 44
> speed_print_layer_0 = 52
> speed_topbottom = 49
> speed_travel = 50
> speed_travel_layer_0 = 53
> speed_wall = 46
> speed_wall_0 = 47
> speed_wall_x = 48

diff 4.3/quality_changes/tevo_tarantula_demo_speed_4.3.0_final.inst.cfg 
4.4/quality_changes/tevo_tarantula_demo_speed_4.4.0_alpha.inst.cfg 
3c3
< name = Demo speed 4.3.0 Final
---
> name = Demo Speed 4.4.0 Alpha
7c7
< type = quality_changes
---
> setting_version = 10
9c9
< setting_version = 9
---

[64Florian]

may be not linked but when I click on an "old" profile, I received following traces in /Users/florian/Library/Logs/cura/stderr.log using "Console" mac application:
QualitySettingsModel.py:152: DeprecationWarning: <function GlobalStack.extruders at 0x608000d018d8> is deprecated (since 4.4): Please use extruderList instead.

Unfortunately I was not able to localize QualitySettingsModel.py file on my computer...

[64Florian]

I Looking in console app because I noticed, when you click on one profile in profile manager, my computer tack literally 2 seconds to display it (even If I have a pretty decent I7 at 4Ghz)
It's at least 3 times faster with 4.3.0 !
-> tested with 4.4.0-beta-pre-release

[Ghostkeeper]

4.4 introduced intent profiles, which is probably where this got broken then. Thanks for the analysis.

[64Florian]

I discovered how useful could be a saved workspace ...
I attache on on my "strange" profile
4.6.1 - profile renne V5 with Cube 1cm.3mf.zip
it could be easier to use for debug than my screenshot

[Ghostkeeper]

Indeed it would. The project file doesn't reproduce the problem for me though. These settings seem to be correct:

(I enabled support so that the Support Placement setting becomes visible.)

I think it's some update problem, that the list is outdated or something...

[64Florian]

Really interesting !
In fact I'm pretty sure is because when I save my profile I save "only" good files not bad one ...
Is it the same if you replace your 4.6 profiles with mines ?
4.6.zip
P.S. I use "tevo tarantula" printer
My actual settings :

[Ghostkeeper]

With that folder it's still mostly the same, except that I found one incongruity:

It mentions Initial Layer Travel Speed as 150, but it ends up being 120.

Using the God Mode plug-in, I can see that your profile sets it globally to 150 and then overrides that in the extruder with 120. As far as I know this should never happen.

When the user modifies a global setting it needs to go into the global stack. When the user modifies a per-extruder setting it needs to go into the extruder stack of the extruder it's modified on. So there shouldn't be an Initial Layer Travel Speed in the global settings at all. I don't understand how it got there. And neither for the rest of those per-extruder settings in the global stack, for that matter.

The resolution of the final setting value is correct at least. Only you can't see the setting override in the extruder tab because of this bug.