Clementine: Youtube support

[Clementine-Issue-Importer]

_From [email protected] on January 17, 2012 23:43:24_

Support for youtube playback (only sound) trough Clementine would be nice. (like http://flavio.tordini.org/musictube ).

_Original issue: http://code.google.com/p/clementine-player/issues/detail?id=2626_

[Clementine-Issue-Importer]

_From john.maguire on January 17, 2012 20:13:29_

Pretty sure this is against YouTube's ToS.

Status: WontFix

[Clementine-Issue-Importer]

_From [email protected] on January 18, 2012 03:59:12_

It is indeed unfortunately.

I wonder how long musictube will be available. It even has e commercial
version.

[dbogdanov]

Youtube is becoming one of the largest places for online music (if not the largest for particular music styles). Having support for Youtube will make Clementine hands down the best music player out there.

I vote for reopening this issue, as the related discussion on google group was left unresolved. The latest suggestion posted there seems feasible to implement in the long term (correct me if I am wrong). Having QWebView will also allow other improvements, for example, biography section could be html and browsable (better than plain text as it is now)

"I think, potentially, we could implement YouTube support if we did something clever like showing the video in the current album cover area using the player API & a QWebView.

This isn't a great solution though, as some YouTube videos still require Flash (which does work in QWebView IIRC, but isn't great and exposes us to the vagaries of flash security and stability). This also requires shipping all of QtWebKit and Phonon (although we could potentially override the video tag to play it with gstreamer...) on Windows & OS X which so far we've avoided.

John Maguire"
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/clementine-player/fwQZ1Qj5-uA

[Tatsh]

I do not want this, ever. YouTube is for _watching_ videos. Although many use it as a podcast player (especially on mobile devices) or even for music, that is not the intended purpose. YouTube even blocks backgrounding on iOS anyway (and I am sure they do so on other platforms too). They go out of their way to ensure people are not misusing the service on mobile devices.

This would equally do the same on the desktop, and it would be against the terms of service anyway.

[dbogdanov]

The TOS are: "you agree not to access Content through any technology or means other than the video playback pages of the Website itself, the YouTube Player, or such other means as YouTube may explicitly designate for this purpose;"

How does it interfere with the idea of using QWebView for videos?

I think, YouTube is for reproducing videos, but not necessarily watching them. One may open a youtube video in his browser and leave it playing in background if he wishes (I am not talking about mobile devices, they may block backgrounding in their official YouTube app if they wish to). Having a video being played in Clementine would be the same as being playing in a browser. It's up to a user's responsibility if he wants to watch it or not.

It is reasonable to focus on actual use instead of intended purpose. I am sure that if Youtube did not want it, they would have already removed/prohibited all that uploaded music with static background pictures. Finally, they get revenue out of that uploaded music as well by publicity, that will be also reproduced via QWebView, and users will hear that publicity.

[kasisnu]

Is this being considered? Maybe search could be included. If I could search through the player itself, it would be an awesome feature. It's fine if it actually plays in my browser session! I don't see why Youtube would have a problem with that.

[strelec]

I guess someone should make an unofficial extension. Fuck google.

[fitojb]

Rok Kralj wrote:

I guess someone should make an unofficial extension. Fuck google.

And that one could be you? I mean, that’d be more useful than bitching in closed tickets.

[samarth-math]

Or maybe a youtube login and red integration if for playing without video?

[pabru]

Youtube-dl already allows access without the proprietary YouTube API, so this could be technically a possibility.

[i8ad8]

Unofficial Google Play Music desktop app now supports YouTube Music. It would be uber cool if Clementine adds support for YouTube Music too.
( https://www.xda-developers.com/unofficial-youtube-music-desktop-app/ )

[pabru]

@arman19940326 That "desktop app" is just a wrapper around the Google Play Music website. There is 99% chance that anything to do with this app would be absolutely useless to Clementine.