Chocolatey-coreteampackages: (skype) Package installs older version 7.41

[gotylergo]

Skype installer is far out of date.

Expected Behavior

When running "choco install skype", the newest version of Skype is installed.

Current Behavior

Older version Skype 7.41 is installed.

Possible Solution

From my conversation with others in the comments on the package page ( https://chocolatey.org/packages/skype#comment-3883854915 ) the package installer was broken for a bit due to Microsoft removing the msi links from their servers and only including the exe which was causing failures. I was able to correct by grabbing the Skype installer used by Ninite. Steps: go to https://ninite.com , select Skype, download, run installer, while installing, view %temp% folder and copy the target.exe file that is created, which is the Skype installer that can be made silent. I tested and was able to build a package using it which installed successfully with the args /VERYSILENT /SUPPRESSMSGBOXES /NORESTART /SP-' I verified this installer will also do an upgrade from the previous 7.41 version that's available in the chocolatey repo.

Your Environment

Package Version used: skype 7.41.0.10101
OS: Windows 7
Chocolatey version: 0.10.10
Nupkg: https://gist.github.com/gotylergo/2345479266df77b36222de0ba679c2c6
chocolateyinstall.ps1: https://gist.github.com/gotylergo/430ae4796c7de0b84248f7c6e2781825

[majkinetor]

Design choice ATM, see https://github.com/chocolatey/chocolatey-coreteampackages/pull/995

[AdmiringWorm]

@gotylergo technically it isn't outdated, as it's the version they provide on the skype page when you try to download it manually.

While skype perhaps notifies that a new version is available, we can't really do much until they also provide it on their download page.

[gotylergo]

@AdmiringWorm When I go to skype.com and click download, it grabs 8.20.0.9.

[AdmiringWorm]

@gotylergo that's odd, when I try to download the classic skype manually it just delivers 7.41.
You sure you're not installing the Windows Store edition of Skype? (This is completely different application than the classic skype, and isn't possible to install through chocolatey AFAIK).

[gotylergo]

No I'm on Windows 7 downloading from skype.com. No windows store here.

[gotylergo]

There's also a Skype Classic available from their website which is an older version: 7.41.0.101? But I don't believe these are different applications. Skype classic is just an older version of the same application offered for compatibility with older machines (Vista or XP) since the newer version doesn't support any OS before Windows 7. Per: https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA10328/what-are-the-system-requirements-for-skype

[AdmiringWorm]

It's different than the one provided on the windows store, but no. Not the one supplied on the homepage of skype when running on windows 7.

I think perhaps we should investigate this a little more before we can say anything conclusive.

EDIT: The purpose of both of them is the same of course

[AdmiringWorm]

The thing is, when going to the skype site when running windows 10 only the store edition, and the classic edition is available to download

[gotylergo]

@AdmiringWorm Interesting. I think this has something to do with them trying to force the UWP (Windows Store) version, but then rescinding a bit and offering "Skype Classic" again, and after realizing that a lot of their user base hasn't upgraded to Windows 8 or 10, offering the older version again. I was reading articles about it. But I can't speak for Microsoft of course. And the logic behind offering the older version for everyone when there's a newer version of the desktop app available doesn't make a lot of sense. May have been website design oversight.

I can confirm though that installing Skype 8 (newest version) does indeed replace Skype 7.41 (or classic as Microsoft is calling it).

[AdmiringWorm]

@gotylergo before we add any changes, I would like some input from the user that submitted the PR.

@jberezanski why was the decision made to use the classic edition, instead of edition supplied when running on Windows 7?

[majkinetor]

AFAIK @jberezanski wanted last classic version because v8 seems to be different product. Now that last classic version is present (if it is going to receive updates then this has to be streamed), v8 could be added without making a new package for it. Note should be added for people to know which version to use for Windows 7 and friends.

[majkinetor]

I tested v8 on personal computer since classic skype couldn't connect any more. It replaces that v7. This should be done as requested.

[majkinetor]

Classifying this as a bug as software is not the latest.

This package was accepted here in speed as Skype was not updated for a longer time, which was apparently not a good decision - on this repo, package is either done correctly or its not here.

[AdmiringWorm]

@majkinetor what's the likelihood that the classic edition will be updated (bug fixes), I'm trying to figure out if we should change the update script to use streams or to just handle the latest available.

[majkinetor]

We can always add stream later if it happens since we can only guess without official info.

[AdmiringWorm]

A new version was just pushed to chocolatey now:
https://chocolatey.org/packages/skype/8.21.0.9