Cataclysm-dda: Disassembly times are unpredictable and unexpected

Created on 15 Oct 2016  路  5Comments  路  Source: CleverRaven/Cataclysm-DDA

When disassembling items, the disassembly times are not intuitive (e.g. some things take 30 seconds; some things take an hour; there is little rhyme or reason why)

Two things to fix:

  • Long disassembly times should be immediately visible at the point of disassembly so you don't commit to an hour-long disassembly unexpectedly;
  • The disassembly times should probably be reviewed for sanity

PR #18826 tried to address the first item but there was plenty of pushback on the particular approach I took, so I will leave this for someone else to fix.

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I went through the pile of junk I had on hand and here's the disassembly times, in order (E&OE)

  • books (0.2 - 1.5 mins)
  • cell phone, desk fan, tablet PC (0.5 min)
  • lawnmower, lightstrip (1.0)
  • PDA (1.2)
  • copper tubing (1.2)
  • spring (1.5)
  • spike (3)
  • amplifier (4)
  • long string (5)
  • copper pot (7.5)
  • processor board (10)
  • flashlight, heavy flashlight (10)
  • chunk of steel (15)
  • small electric motor (20)
  • cordless drill (20)
  • circular saw (20)
  • electric motor (30)
  • bucket (30)
  • handheld game (60)
  • TV (60)
  • lump of steel (60)
  • rag (60)
  • laptop (60)
  • charcoal smoker (70)
  • concrete mixer (150)

So you can disassemble 50 PDAs in the time it takes to do one handheld game (similar complexity), a concrete mixer (big but simple) takes 2.5x as long as a laptop (small but complex), a lawnmower (machinery that needs tools to disassemble) is 30x faster than a bucket (dumb chunk of metal) to take apart, copper pots are 6x slower than copper tubing to turn into scrap, etc.

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This may sound strange, but could you post some examples where disassembly is not intuitive? The only hour one I know is the rag, which seems reasonable to me because it'd seem tedious and long work to rip apart a rag into tiny thread.

Currently it seems to be like this:

  • If it's crafted, it takes long time
  • If it's uncraftable, it takes short time
  • Except if it's a dead robot, then it takes very long time

Not perfect, but I don't see an obvious improvement here. Maybe except the robots.

I went through the pile of junk I had on hand and here's the disassembly times, in order (E&OE)

  • books (0.2 - 1.5 mins)
  • cell phone, desk fan, tablet PC (0.5 min)
  • lawnmower, lightstrip (1.0)
  • PDA (1.2)
  • copper tubing (1.2)
  • spring (1.5)
  • spike (3)
  • amplifier (4)
  • long string (5)
  • copper pot (7.5)
  • processor board (10)
  • flashlight, heavy flashlight (10)
  • chunk of steel (15)
  • small electric motor (20)
  • cordless drill (20)
  • circular saw (20)
  • electric motor (30)
  • bucket (30)
  • handheld game (60)
  • TV (60)
  • lump of steel (60)
  • rag (60)
  • laptop (60)
  • charcoal smoker (70)
  • concrete mixer (150)

So you can disassemble 50 PDAs in the time it takes to do one handheld game (similar complexity), a concrete mixer (big but simple) takes 2.5x as long as a laptop (small but complex), a lawnmower (machinery that needs tools to disassemble) is 30x faster than a bucket (dumb chunk of metal) to take apart, copper pots are 6x slower than copper tubing to turn into scrap, etc.

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