Hello
Many backend developers no time or knowledge to build ui via html and css , my suggestion is why we do not have ui design system like silverlight (drag and drop) it can be done via canvas or ...
I know we lose seo in websites but for web applicaions (SPA) it's great feature
Rgl88
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Wisej is a pretty useful framework for that exact purpose. Though something that did xaml standard would be awesome.
Terricide
on 20 Feb 2018
Yeah, Wisej is awesome!
Unfortunately its not free with Visual Studio, which can be a big deterrent. Supposedly it can also be heavy on the server, which I suspect can be a another deterrent. So that's probably why people are still left hoping that MS can offer their own SPA/client-side framework solution that offers both a designer and all the luxuries of using .NET.
Anyway, I second @Rgl88 , but I'll add that it should probably be something that should come later. As @danroth27 pointed out on Gitter recently, designers take a LOT of work. So I'd rather Microsoft work on it when the rest of the framework is in a good place. Otherwise I feel like we'd end up with something that will make you wish you just made everything in code.
dragnilar
on 20 Feb 2018
I disagree about xaml completely. You should embrace the idioms of the web, not fight against it. Fighting against it and hiding everything behind a layer is what made web forms a failure. Maybe a framework like xamarin forms can fill that role better, but Blazor should stay pure html/css.
stavroskasidis
on 20 Feb 2018
I agree. A XAML based web framework would be awesome, but Blazor's role is more on the traditional HTML/CSS stack.
A XAML stack should be another project at most. Maybe try asking the guys at Xamarin Forms for it. I'd love for that to happen, but for now let's count on this experiment on Blazor being a success as it can open those opportunities later on.
RyoukoKonpaku
on 20 Feb 2018
That's probably why I said a designer/XAML driven framework should come later; as you kindly pointed out, it feels out of scope for Blazor.
dragnilar
on 20 Feb 2018
I agree with stavroskasidis I do not want a Microsoft designer I would rather learn more about html and css than a new untried xaml based designer. Html and css are well established and time spent learning them is transferable. The promise of Blazor is to bring c# and the Microsoft tooling to client side web development removing the need to battle with JavaScript or learn typescript with all its build steps.
davidbmasterson
on 20 Feb 2018
An interesting discussion! I'll mark it closed because it's not an active work item, but please feel free to continue discussing here.
SteveSandersonMS
on 20 Feb 2018
Stavros has a point, but having a designer won't prevent you from going with pure html/css. I think it's a nice to have feature, low priority though.
melkor54248
on 23 Feb 2018
Whats about Ooui with WebAssembly?
montyclt
on 10 Aug 2018
Another option may also be Uno, if you are into UWP: https://github.com/nventive/Uno
dragnilar
on 10 Aug 2018
@dragnilar I'm interesting in Uno.
Why preffer Uno over Xamarin, or why preffer Xamarin over Uno?
montyclt
on 10 Aug 2018
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Yeah, Wisej is awesome!
Unfortunately its not free with Visual Studio, which can be a big deterrent. Supposedly it can also be heavy on the server, which I suspect can be a another deterrent. So that's probably why people are still left hoping that MS can offer their own SPA/client-side framework solution that offers both a designer and all the luxuries of using .NET.
Anyway, I second @Rgl88 , but I'll add that it should probably be something that should come later. As @danroth27 pointed out on Gitter recently, designers take a LOT of work. So I'd rather Microsoft work on it when the rest of the framework is in a good place. Otherwise I feel like we'd end up with something that will make you wish you just made everything in code.